DA42-VI vs BRS

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Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

by CFIDave » Wed May 03, 2017 12:40 am

If you're talking about Diamond's autoland system that they installed in a DA42, it's just an experimental system that's not in production. It's not certified and thus there's no way to order it on a new aircraft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlaDeojkLcU

There are other DA42s that can fly autonomously, including Aurora Flight Science's Centaur OPM (Optionally-piloted vehicle) that uses robotic arms to work the DA42's flight controls. Also not for certified aircraft.
http://www.aurora.aero/centaur/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a13ytpsQ_Xs

hold

by scguest » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:33 pm

Have guys heard about eSafe (supposedly you push a button and the plane lands by itself, arguably perhaps safer than BRS when pilot becomes incapacitated)? New DA62 buyers, did you inquire about that feature before buying? That seems like a great safety feature to me. Thanks.

Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

by CFIDave » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:43 pm

Send your "significant other" to an AOPA "pinch hitter's" course if they're worried about pilot incapacitation (or buy a Cirrus with a 'chute ;) ).

I think it would take a lot of skill, concentration, and luck for a non-pilot to follow instructions and get the airplane down safely. They'd have to know how to use the radio, work the flight controls, throttle -- much of the stuff we had to learn in becoming pilots.

Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

by Colin » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:33 pm

I am working on a laminated document for Pilot Incapacitation, I'll let you know when I'm done. But working it out a little while crossing the country, it's more than one button push, but nothing that is critical immediately. (I am on autopilot as soon as we are wheels up and until I am in the pattern.) The big difference between the DA42 and DA40 is that there are hours and hours to get on the ground safely.

Communicate, get on an ILS to a big huge airport, gear down on short final, ready on the brakes. You probably would survive even if you didn't turn off the autopilot. I *think* it would put the wheels on the ground. Dave?

Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

by scguest » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:39 am

Thanks guys, I feel more comfortable now with the DA42, should fly one (first demo) before July. I wish, though, that Diamond should offer eSafe and the NXi. Do you guys know what happened with eSafe? When I fly with my son I want to be able to tell him that if I get hit by a bird and loose consciousness then he can simply push a button instead of die. I know, it only happens to others so maybe I worry too much. Thanks again

Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

by carym » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:49 pm

Colin wrote: Diamond's ferry pilot told someone he dropped the seat back and took a nap sometimes over the north atlantic.
He'd have trouble in the "older" DA42's, as their seats don't articulate, they are fixed. There have been many times that I had wished my seat back was able to drop down, especially when I "had" to use the little red bottle :scream:

Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

by Colin » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:58 pm

Without wearing the suit, but you had it on board, right? So if your gear dropped and range was horrible, you'd be in the suit before you got to the ocean?

Diamond's ferry pilot told someone he dropped the seat back and took a nap sometimes over the north atlantic. (I've told people the same thing about flights SMO – PDX, but I was pulling their leg to see how gullible they were.)

Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

by dgger » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:39 am

CFIDave wrote:
scguest wrote:How confident are you guys about the AE300? Thx
- Personally confident enough to ferry a DA42-VI across the cold N. Atlantic without wearing an immersion suit.
Let me high-jack this threat for a moment as this one really surprises me.

Clearly there are factors other than the engines that impact flight safety. One that I worried a lot about (but that might very well be a personal obsessions) is the hydraulic system. The reason: there is no redundancy here and loosing the hydraulic system (or even just the pump) will - unlike an engine failure - seriously impact range, if the gear falls. A troubling scenario. In particular over a large body of cold water...

Has anyone ever experienced any issues with the hydraulic system?

Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

by Colin » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:44 am

(I am so jealous of your DA62.)

Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

by ultraturtle » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:40 pm

(2-1) > (1-1)

Just sayin...

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