DA42-VI vs BRS

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Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

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Looks like 198. Not bad right, but not at all surprising. It's been known for a number of years Diamond has been the envy of manufacturers in terms of safety. Thousand things I don't like about Diamond, but building a an airplane that flies with unmatched safety is not one of them.

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... 2&PageNo=1
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Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

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I thought there were over 200 DA42s in North America. I can't remember where I saw that figure.
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Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

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There seem to be 24 registered in Canada currently.
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Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

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As H60 pilot's link to the FAA Registry database shows, there are 198 DA42s that are US N-registered. However, not all of these are based in the US, since N-registry is sometimes used for DA42s located in other countries. Adding in Canada, there are somewhere around 200 DA42s in North America.

But there do not seem to be any N-registered DA42 fatalities, and only a few accidents. Not bad for a plane that's been flying for more than 10 years.
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Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

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Extrapolating from the highest publically known serial numbers (found on the U.S. registry, Controller et. al.) I would put the total number built at a good 1000.

Since Diamond is not a U.S.manufacturer incidents and accidents reported do not show on the NTSB database unless they happen in the U.S. or involve an aircraft on U.S. registry. Over at the aviation safety network there is an attempt to crowd source GA accidents worldwide. They have a searchable database here: https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wikisearch.php. They show 11 known fatal accidents with DA42s. Some rather odd such as a suicide and an aircraft lost by Diamond itself demoing its MPP platform.

Before buying a DA42 I have obsessively looked into accident rates and compared SR22s with DA42s. I have no found a significant difference in accident rates between the two aircraft. The number of accidents is (fortunately) rather small.
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Among the ~800 DA42 built, ~10 involved fatal accidents in a ~10 yr span, and statistically the number will be about 1/20 in a ~40 yr span, the same as the good old Duchess (Be-76; total ~400 built) among which 20 were involved in fatal accidents in the past 40 years.

The statistics should also hold true for the ~1600 DA40 built.
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dgger wrote:Over at the aviation safety network there is an attempt to crowd source GA accidents worldwide. They have a searchable database here: https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wikisearch.php.
This is missing known incidents that appear in the NTSB DB, though it does have more non-US stuff. One needs to merge the two for a fuller picture.
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Re: DA42-VI vs BRS

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Rich wrote:
dgger wrote:Over at the aviation safety network there is an attempt to crowd source GA accidents worldwide. They have a searchable database here: https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wikisearch.php.
This is missing known incidents that appear in the NTSB DB, though it does have more non-US stuff. One needs to merge the two for a fuller picture.
Yes, you do. I agree, since the majority of DA42s are operated outside the U.S. adding the global incidents and accidents is necessary to complete the picture.

In any case, one issue persists: we will only get the lower bounds as an unknown number of accidents and incidents go unreported and most countries' reportings and investigations are sub-par. This is particularly true for Austria where accident investigations are kept a state secret by law (no kidding!) as to not hurt the local economy. A series of accidents in the past, however, had prompted the Austrian parliament in to scrutinize Diamond and its cosyness with the aviation authorities.
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Checked the DB, there are 200+ DA42/62 in the US. Is there any data about single engine failure (that obviously did end up well)? How confident are you guys about the AE300? Thx
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scguest wrote:How confident are you guys about the AE300? Thx
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