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Re: Looking to purchase DA62

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:09 pm
by Colin
Another $45 per hour for your engine reserve. Got it.

I suspect if I get a DA62 it will be 150hrs a year. So I'd be good for six years before I had to consider that debate.

Re: Looking to purchase DA62

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:28 am
by Gordon
David, Good info - thanks. Perhaps these figures for the 900hr make Piston Power's, "power by the hour" rates look more attractive as an option for owners?
I'm looking at a 62 with 400hrs on it at the moment.

Re: Looking to purchase DA62

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:17 am
by neema
David, were the cylinder heads and fuel injectors the bulk of the 900 hour items?

Re: Looking to purchase DA62

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:05 pm
by Antoine
Holy Moly: 36 K for the 900 hour kits (plus manpower?)
What is it that justifies paying so much money for this aircraft knowing that operating costs are also high?
What makes it so desirable? Is it the nice and roomy interior? I really can't see what else versus say a JetProp.
I am really curious: 1'000 AMU is a lot of money and I was not expecting many private owners to take the plunge.

Re: Looking to purchase DA62

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:01 am
by Tommy
Sounds worse than a Continental.

Re: Looking to purchase DA62

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:13 pm
by jast
Davestation wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:15 pm
They had quickly realized that the sum of the parts would make owners start saying, “ I might as well just buy a complete overhauled engine” so they did come up with a 900hr kit, which was close to $18k per engine.
What parts did the exchange? I heard something about flywheel, timing chain, high pressure pump and fuel injectors...which could add up to this pricing. But no cylinder head, is this correct?

Re: Looking to purchase DA62

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:27 pm
by Davestation
Gordon wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:28 am David, Good info - thanks. Perhaps these figures for the 900hr make Piston Power's, "power by the hour" rates look more attractive as an option for owners?
I'm looking at a 62 with 400hrs on it at the moment.

IMO the one and only reason for any warranty/insurance program is peace of mind. They're going to factor in the baseline cost of ownership, and then add cost of insurance on top of that. You have to figure out what the latter dollar amount is and then decide if it's worth it to you.


neema wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:17 am David, were the cylinder heads and fuel injectors the bulk of the 900 hour items?

The head is the big ticket item. The injectors offer no extra labor since they come off with the head regardless.

Antoine wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:05 pm Holy Moly: 36 K for the 900 hour kits (plus manpower?)
What is it that justifies paying so much money for this aircraft knowing that operating costs are also high?
What makes it so desirable? Is it the nice and roomy interior? I really can't see what else versus say a JetProp.
I am really curious: 1'000 AMU is a lot of money and I was not expecting many private owners to take the plunge.
From a purely fiscal standpoint, I'd say the simple answer is fuel burn. If you merge the fuel savings with the mx costs you may still come out ahead of comparable aircraft.

The jetprop is a very different animal - given the overhaul interval is double that of the DA62, the cost is what, $250k? The HSI can be anywhere from $10k to $50k, so you're coming up on the price of the diamond overhaul at the same hours. The jetprop will burn as much fuel at idle as the DA62 does at 100%, of course it goes twice as fast... apples and oranges I suppose.

jast wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:13 pm
Davestation wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:15 pm
They had quickly realized that the sum of the parts would make owners start saying, “ I might as well just buy a complete overhauled engine” so they did come up with a 900hr kit, which was close to $18k per engine.
What parts did the exchange? I heard something about flywheel, timing chain, high pressure pump and fuel injectors...which could add up to this pricing. But no cylinder head, is this correct?
Cylinder head, timing chain, injectors, and gearbox. The flywheel and HPP are 600hr items.