The G1000 project - "The next step"

[TwinStarScott]

For non-WAAS, DA42 TDI owners, any number of questions come to mind over this most recent and rather depressing news.

Questions such as:

1) is a short-term investment into these now even harder to source 63W’s going to be money well spent*?

2) should one of the 63W boxes fail, what are the chances of a replacement 63W box being located in a timely fashion?
And at what price?

3) Same question from #2, only when a nonWAAS 63 box needs replacing. What is the inventory of these, even older, boxes (does anybody know)?

4) if you’re based several thousand miles away from a factory, is it worth the time, effort, and added expense for only a single upgrade?

After reading this news from Dave today, do others feel like I - which is the need for finding a non-G1000 solution is now even more pressing, whether it be from Garmin** or a competitor?

*as it certainly puts owners in that much deeper of a financial hole, should a viable long-term and more affordable solution ever become available.

** such as the TXi or G3X, driven by either a GTN650 or 750 (in place of the MFD). With enhanced backup instruments, such as the G5 (installed as a backup AI).

[CFIDave]

How does one tell whether one has the -1, -2, or -20 unit installed? Don't say a sticker on the PCB ...

Thanks

On a Lycoming DA40, if you remove the access panel under the rear baggage floor (held with only 4 camloc screws), you can easily read the GIA63W model numbers located on top of each unit.

You should also be able to consult Chapter 6 of your Aircraft Flight Manual "Equipment List and Equipment Inventory" to see the GIA63W model number.

Interestingly, I went back and found a photo of the units installed in my 2008 DA40 XLS, and they were both p/n 011-01105-00. So the part numbers I originally posted from my conversation with Ed aren't correct. (Note: moderator has fixed this)

Doing some quick searching on Google, I found the following GIA63W models:

011-01105-00
011-01105-01
011-01105-20

I'm guessing that only -00 and -01 units will work in DA42 TDI aircraft.

Unfortunately the forum software won't let me go back and modify my post from last night to correct the part numbers. So everywhere I listed "-01 and -02" should be "-00 and -01" (Note: moderator has fixed this)

[CFIDave]

2) should one of the 63W boxes fail, what are the chances of a replacement 63W box being located in a timely fashion?
And at what price?

3) Same question from #2, only when a nonWAAS 63 box needs replacing. What is the inventory of these, even older, boxes (does anybody know)?

Garmin maintains an inventory of spares. Any time a GIA needs repair, Garmin will quickly send you one of their spares for installation in your plane, and you are then required to send your failed unit back to them -- thus allowing Garmin to repair it for the next owner who needs a replacement. Most G1000 LRU swaps cost around $2K or so.

[Rich]

On a Lycoming DA40, if you remove the access panel under the rear baggage floor (held with only 4 camloc screws), you can easily read the GIA63W model numbers located on top of each unit.

You should also be able to consult Chapter 6 of your Aircraft Flight Manual "Equipment List and Equipment Inventory" to see the GIA63W model number.

Interestingly, I went back and found a photo of the units installed in my 2008 DA40 XLS, and they were both p/n 011-01105-00. So the part numbers I posted from my conversation with Ed aren't correct.

Doing some quick searching on Google, I found the following GIA63W models:

011-01105-00
011-01105-01
011-01105-20

I'm guessing that only -00 and -01 units will work in DA42 TDI aircraft.

Unfortunately the forum software won't let me go back and modify my post from last night to correct the part numbers. So everywhere I listed "-01 and -02" should be "-00 and -01"

I wouldn't rely on this level of detail in chapter 6. I've found errors in this data and it often lists multiple equivalent types of equipment that might be installed. I keep a separate document with corrections that I've found.

Eyeball it directly in the plane.

[Rick]

Unfortunately the forum software won't let me go back and modify my post from last night to correct the part numbers. So everywhere I listed "-01 and -02" should be "-00 and -01"

Dave, to avoid confusion, I edited your original post and made the changes - let me know if I missed anything.

[Rick]

I found a picture of my rack, too - here is the sticker on the GIA (both of mine appear to be -01 units):

[Ultrapilot1]

So if I can find a GIA63W any idea what other costs are involved in upgrading the G1000 in the DA40 (2005) to WAAS?

[pietromarx]

I note that there are also -30 (GIA-63H, for helicopters) and -40 (GIA-63W) versions of the GIA-63W out there, too.

Given that the -01 version (and probably beyond) are rated for power outages of 200ms (vs. 50ms for the -00), you'll want those.

[CFIDave]

So if I can find a GIA63W any idea what other costs are involved in upgrading the G1000 in the DA40 (2005) to WAAS?

You'll also need new GPS antennas compatible with WAAS.

[Rick]

So if I can find a GIA63W any idea what other costs are involved in upgrading the G1000 in the DA40 (2005) to WAAS?

You'll also need new GPS antennas compatible with WAAS.

...and some new G1000 software...