New Cirrus Trainer

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New Cirrus Trainer

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This could put a squeeze on Diamond in the trainer market:

Cirrus TRAC

No mention of prices, but it's a high-spec aircraft, so they seem to be targetting the professional pilot market, and it comes with multimedia learning courses.
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Re: New Cirrus Trainer

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This AVweb article mentions prices:
The base price for the TRAC is $409,900 and can reach $541,500 with all the TRAC20 packages selected.
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Re: New Cirrus Trainer

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Is this not just an ordinary SR-20 repackaged by their marketing department to focus in on the flight training industry?
And yes, Cirrus has the best marketing plan over any other piston plane manufacture out there. Just saying.
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Re: New Cirrus Trainer

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They have some good trainer features, such as gear up/down and also, out of view of the pilot, switches to implement certain simulated failures etc. So yes... repackaged... but smart business development initiative in my view to attempt to corner another segment of the market.
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Re: New Cirrus Trainer

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We're reminded every day that Cirrus is a customer focused marketing company, Diamond is an engineering company which sells airplanes in spite of itself. Can't blame Chinese management because both companies share that.
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I like the price point - that will support our DA40 values nicely!
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Re: New Cirrus Trainer

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I like landing gear knob that does nothing :) That will definitely not promote safety because the pilot doesn't have any feedback on lifting/extending gear except three greens, no IAS/ROC climb increase when lifting up, no positive feedback in decreasing IAS with same engine setting when lowering, no change in pitch to maintain approach speed… only one useless switch added to checklist.
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Re: New Cirrus Trainer

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ememic99 wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:56 pm I like landing gear knob that does nothing :) That will definitely not promote safety because the pilot doesn't have any feedback on lifting/extending gear except three greens, no IAS/ROC climb increase when lifting up, no positive feedback in decreasing IAS with same engine setting when lowering, no change in pitch to maintain approach speed… only one useless switch added to checklist.
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Re: New Cirrus Trainer

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As has been mentioned, this is a very smart marketing move. They were getting some of these sales anyway. Now they have a dedicated model which has a high traffic interior (having the Air Force pay for leather seats in a primary trainer is not a good idea) and some specific hardware to move your primary students along.

You can make fun of the landing gear switch, but it teaches a flow for the landing and allows them to take a Commercial ticket checkride, and they will probably move on to a complex twin from there. Get their MEII and then they can start logging the turbine time in something as inexpensive as possible.
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Re: New Cirrus Trainer

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Colin wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:30 pm You can make fun of the landing gear switch, but it teaches a flow for the landing and allows them to take a Commercial ticket checkride, and they will probably move on to a complex twin from there.
No they can't - retractable gear and variable prop pitch is required.
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