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DA40 NG Down

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Anyone have any details on this one? RIP to the two individuals... sad to read this.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/us/india ... index.html

The plane was from Lift Academy, Montgomery Field
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Looks like they were doing air work, stalls, etc. They got pretty slow. Maybe a stall spin as the last two entries are descents of 1,000' fpm and 2,400'fpm.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N853L
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Boatguy wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:41 pm They got pretty slow. Maybe a stall spin as the last two entries are descents of 1,000' fpm and 2,400'fpm.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N853L
Agree, although I happened to be flying over northern Indiana around the same time and thus can report that the winds at that altitude were around 15 knots from the southwest. So adjust the Flightaware ground speeds accordingly.

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ADSBExchange.com has a few more data points than FlightAware.

Here's the final data point (-4864 fpm)...
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Tragic.
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waynemcc999 wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:22 pm ADSBExchange.com has a few more data points than FlightAware.

Here's the final data point (-4864 fpm)...
screenshot126.png
Very unfortunate. That's a very nice website, thanks for sharing Wayne
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dmloftus wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:47 pm
waynemcc999 wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:22 pm ADSBExchange.com has a few more data points than FlightAware.
Very unfortunate. That's a very nice website, thanks for sharing Wayne
The user interface on ADSBExchange.com is quite funky... but they often have much better granularity than FlightAware and FlightRadar24. Seems ADSBExchange collaborates with local Ham Radio groups (e.g. sbarc.org) who have local towers that receive ADS-B signals.
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Playing it back from about 14:18:28Z, there's a brief increase in altitude / decrease in GS (stall practice?), a dip, a rise, and then they go straight down.
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This news video:

https://www.wishtv.com/news/local-news/ ... arlington/

shows some semi-close views of the accident site. The wreckage appears to be concentrated in an area the size of the aircraft itself, and the degree of structural disruption (wings split open, control rods bent into the air, almost no identifiable cabin structure, speaks to a very high-speed impact. We all know how strong our airframes are. Damage like that isn't seen often. I'm thinking stall-spin is a likely scenario, but we will have to wait and see. Very sad.
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The Flightaware data looks like practice with slow flight; repeatedly going slow, 90 degree turns, not much altitude loss until the end. And a stall/spin would explain the state of the wreckage.

But wait a minute. A Cirrus-style stall/spin in a DA40? Has that ever happened before?
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