Jeppen vs. Garmin nav data

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Re: Jeppen vs. Garmin nav data

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You can't load Jeppesen ChartView approach plates into a DA40 configured to use Garmin FliteCharts approach plates (which is what you had been using previously).

Your legacy G1000 must be configured for one or the other, not both (NXi will let the pilot choose Jepp vs. Garmin approach charts if both are installed). Furthermore, Jepp charts are an extra-cost $4000 option that requires a software unlock card be applied to your G1000, whereas Garmin chart support is standard and built-in to your G1000.
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Can you cancel your Jepp subscription (and get $$ back) and get the Garmin subscription instead?
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Thanks Dave, you are correct and I am slowly figuring this out. John - that is a very good point, and luckily I am at the end of my yearly Jeppesen subscription (renews in May 2019) and so I will just not renew. All the databases can be purchased from flygarmin including FliteCharts at a cheaper price. My Jeppesen subscription was $1230 USD yearly.
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Something else to consider: Don't sign up for either a Jepp ChartView or Garmin FliteCharts database subscription.

I don't have either one in my DA62. Why? I'm already relying on Foreflight on my iPad for approach plates, so I can save $300-400/year by not subscribing to approach charts again on the G1000.

IMHO, the G1000 isn't the best place to display approach charts. When flying instrument approaches I prefer to use the MFD to display the "Flight Plan" page with all of the waypoints, crossing altitudes, and moving map; that's a better use of panel "real estate." The iPad with its much higher "Retina Display" resolution screen is better suited to read the details of approach charts than the MFD with only 768x1024 pixels.
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CFIDave wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:35 am Something else to consider: Don't sign up for either a Jepp ChartView or Garmin FliteCharts database subscription.

I don't have either one in my DA62. Why? I'm already relying on Foreflight on my iPad for approach plates, so I can save $300-400/year by not subscribing to approach charts again on the G1000.

IMHO, the G1000 isn't the best place to display approach charts. When flying instrument approaches I prefer to use the MFD to display the "Flight Plan" page with all of the waypoints, crossing altitudes, and moving map; that's a better use of panel "real estate." The iPad with its much higher "Retina Display" resolution screen is better suited to read the details of approach charts than the MFD with only 768x1024 pixels.
Agreed. Those of us limited to GNS have only this (or other tablet) option. But it's 100% functional, with 4 possible devices I could use to check all the charts and ADS-B stuff in flight. And updates are the the most convenient to accomplish with FF than DB updates in the GNS units (which are still required for nav data).
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Re: Jeppen vs. Garmin nav data

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Thanks for that advise. I was actually struggling as to which Garmin package to go with combined with the fact that I actually have plates on Foreflight. I was thinking the same thing but am glad to know that you recommend that as well.
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CFIDave wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:35 am Something else to consider: Don't sign up for either a Jepp ChartView or Garmin FliteCharts database subscription.

I don't have either one in my DA62. Why? I'm already relying on Foreflight on my iPad for approach plates, so I can save $300-400/year by not subscribing to approach charts again on the G1000.

IMHO, the G1000 isn't the best place to display approach charts. When flying instrument approaches I prefer to use the MFD to display the "Flight Plan" page with all of the waypoints, crossing altitudes, and moving map; that's a better use of panel "real estate." The iPad with its much higher "Retina Display" resolution screen is better suited to read the details of approach charts than the MFD with only 768x1024 pixels.
Great point about the ChartView or FliteCharts and displaying them on the MFD-

Even though our plane has the capability to display the charts on the MFD - I always use my iPad or iPhone for the actual chart display. Makes it a lot easier to crosscheck what the plane's flight plan is "programmed" to do versus what is displayed on the actual approach chart. That applies to STARS and SIDs too.
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Re: Jeppen vs. Garmin nav data

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Giving a PIREP on the Garmin nav data after flying with it for about a month, switching from a previous lifetime of Jepp data. The data works perfectly, no issues yet. Obviously cheaper. The private airports now show up on the MFD map and info, whereas with Jepp they were not included. The Localizer only approaches are now listed separately from the ILS in the procedures, whereas with Jepp there was only a combined ILS/LOC. This is very nice, much easier! Overall a big win.
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One difference that had me and a buddy in the cone of confusion for a couple days, was how to identify the missed approach point for LNAV minimums (dive and drive) on an RNAV (GPS) approach. It is clearly defined on Jepps plates (usually the runway threshold), but not easy to spot on the FAA Chart. All you have is this symbol on the plan view:
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jb642DA wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:07 pm Can you cancel your Jepp subscription (and get $$ back) and get the Garmin subscription instead?
I tried to get this done on my DA42 which had the Jepp chart software when I purchased it. Turned out that it was very difficult to find an Avionics shop that would give me any certainty that it would not be a potential nightmare if it went wrong. Although the Jepp charts are more expensive I do prefer them to the Garmin ones. As Dave said though - the iPad is more than adequate for charts and it also saves the MFD for a better Flightplan or terrain screen during the approach.
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