ADSB upgrade issues....
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Re: ADSB upgrade issues....
Colin is absolutely right: the Pitot Off caution has been there since the earliest days of the G1000.
On the traffic side, strange you don't have a traffic page. Your installation wasn't finished correctly. Even without audio you should have traffic available to you on all of the map modes. This is a G1000 configuration page setup (best case) or the lack of a correct input from the GTX-345R (worst case). I would guess the latter since your folks didn't know to pull a wire for audio?
On the traffic side, strange you don't have a traffic page. Your installation wasn't finished correctly. Even without audio you should have traffic available to you on all of the map modes. This is a G1000 configuration page setup (best case) or the lack of a correct input from the GTX-345R (worst case). I would guess the latter since your folks didn't know to pull a wire for audio?
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Re: ADSB upgrade issues....
Nick,
I flew some today and played with the ADS-B. Traffic shows up with N-numbers and Altitudes on the dedicated G1000 traffic screen. Traffic shows up on the Map but without altitudes which would be nice. I found myself switching to the traffic page then back just to see the altitude difference. What a bother.
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Re: ADSB upgrade issues....
The pitot light is on whenever there is no current to the pitot heater. This is a long known behavior and will often happen when the pitot heat is switched on when stationary on the ground.
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Re: ADSB upgrade issues.
Thanks for all the feedback!
There is clearly something wrong with the traffic page missing issue, but I’m surprised about the Pitot message. I completely agree with Colin, it should come on at a certain temp. What’s really interesting is why that message hasn’t ever been up on my PFD for the last two years since I’ve purchased the plane. I find the caution message sitting there all the time to be a pretty big nuisance. Caution and warning messages should be ABNORMALITIES, not a constant presence. In the airline world we specifically avoid things like this because it trains you to look past something that should gain your attention. It seems like either Garmin or Diamond didn’t think that one through, or there is a setting in the system we are all unaware of that a Garmin service center can adjust so it’s not always present in the off position.
Hopefully Wednesday my local shop will be plugging in to the system to make some corrections and I’ll let you know what I find.
There is clearly something wrong with the traffic page missing issue, but I’m surprised about the Pitot message. I completely agree with Colin, it should come on at a certain temp. What’s really interesting is why that message hasn’t ever been up on my PFD for the last two years since I’ve purchased the plane. I find the caution message sitting there all the time to be a pretty big nuisance. Caution and warning messages should be ABNORMALITIES, not a constant presence. In the airline world we specifically avoid things like this because it trains you to look past something that should gain your attention. It seems like either Garmin or Diamond didn’t think that one through, or there is a setting in the system we are all unaware of that a Garmin service center can adjust so it’s not always present in the off position.
Hopefully Wednesday my local shop will be plugging in to the system to make some corrections and I’ll let you know what I find.
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Re: ADSB upgrade issues....
On my G530W altitude differences for the ADSB traffic on the Map page (but not the targets) disappear after the map scale gets to next scale greater than 20nm.
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Re: ADSB upgrade issues....
Hi all,
Does anyone have the link so I can download the DA40 G1000 wiring diagram? My plane is going into the shop next week for the GTX 345-R transponder. I also have the Avidyne TAS 600 if that changes anything. If you have the link it would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Don
Does anyone have the link so I can download the DA40 G1000 wiring diagram? My plane is going into the shop next week for the GTX 345-R transponder. I also have the Avidyne TAS 600 if that changes anything. If you have the link it would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Don
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Re: ADSB upgrade issues....
It is all in the GTX-345R installation manual. You can find it on the Internets and your dealer will have it. From the POV of the G1000 the box replaces both the transponder and the TAS as it integrates both into a single input into the GIAs and audio.
Your install is fairly simple as there is already audio going from the back to the front. It will simple be a lift out the old transponder, wire in the new wiring harness for the GTX per the installation, add in or replace existing GPS antenna (depending upon whether you have XM Radio) and then off you go. The inputs into the GTX are the GPS and TAS. The outputs are to the G1000 and audio. The software is installed independently into the GTX and your G1000 will "see" the new box as being a GDL-90 as it operates under an emulation mode (until new software comes out).
Your install is fairly simple as there is already audio going from the back to the front. It will simple be a lift out the old transponder, wire in the new wiring harness for the GTX per the installation, add in or replace existing GPS antenna (depending upon whether you have XM Radio) and then off you go. The inputs into the GTX are the GPS and TAS. The outputs are to the G1000 and audio. The software is installed independently into the GTX and your G1000 will "see" the new box as being a GDL-90 as it operates under an emulation mode (until new software comes out).
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Re: ADSB upgrade issues....
Don: Here is the link to the Lycoming DA40 Aircraft Maintenance Manual (AMM) that includes all of the wiring diagrams at the end of the PDF document. Included is 8 pages of DA40 G1000 wiring diagrams that include the GFC700 autopilot and TAS600:Don wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:50 am Hi all,
Does anyone have the link so I can download the DA40 G1000 wiring diagram? My plane is going into the shop next week for the GTX 345-R transponder. I also have the Avidyne TAS 600 if that changes anything. If you have the link it would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Don
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Re: ADSB upgrade issues....
These cover a lot of variants of options and engines and such. I found it useful to pick out the diagrams relevant to my plane and print out paper copies of those pages, along with the guide at the front of the section. Otherwise I wind up paging through lots of diagrams irrelevant to me every time I want to check something out. Also, the latest "Adobe Acrobat Reader DC" is much more efficient paging through these scanned-in diagrams.CFIDave wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:50 pmDon: Here is the link to the Lycoming DA40 Aircraft Maintenance Manual (AMM) that includes all of the wiring diagrams at the end of the PDF document. Included is 8 pages of DA40 G1000 wiring diagrams that include the GFC700 autopilot and TAS600:Don wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:50 am Hi all,
Does anyone have the link so I can download the DA40 G1000 wiring diagram? My plane is going into the shop next week for the GTX 345-R transponder. I also have the Avidyne TAS 600 if that changes anything. If you have the link it would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Don
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Re: ADSB upgrade issues....
I just had the ADS-B upgrade done on my 2010 DA40 XLS at Aerial Avionics at Reid-Hillview (KRHV) airport last week in San Jose. This plane had G1000 version 0321.22 software installed and includes the WAAS, Synthetic Vision, TAWS, XM weather, and Avidyne active traffic options.
The upgrade involved:
I had previously installed the “DYI Bluetooth signal extender” described in another thread to make sure a Garmin Pilot tablet would reliably connect to the GTX-345R. The parts list from Amazon.com used for this is as follows:
I dropped the plane off last Monday afternoon and picked it up at noon on Friday for a test flight around the Bay Area class B airspace to get ADS-B performance report. Everything worked great first time including the Bluetooth connection to the Garmin Pilot tablet. I'm really happy... !
If you are looking for a shop to do the ADS-B upgrade and are anywhere near the west coast, you might want to give Adam at Aerial Avionics (http://www.aerialavionics.com/contact.html) a call.
The upgrade involved:
- Removing the existing GTX-33 transponder
- Installing a GTX-345R WAAS (the WAAS version is needed since the G1000 software doesn’t allow it to be a GTX-345R GPS source)
- Replacing the GA-55 XM antenna inside the tail with a GA-37 GPS/SiriusXM combo antenna - no composite work is required to install another external GPS antenna
- Building and installing a new wiring harness to connect the G1000, GTX-345R, and Avidyne so all the data and audio signals work correctly - no new wire runs were required to the front panel
- Upgrading the G1000 software to the latest version 0321.23
I had previously installed the “DYI Bluetooth signal extender” described in another thread to make sure a Garmin Pilot tablet would reliably connect to the GTX-345R. The parts list from Amazon.com used for this is as follows:
- 2.4 GHz Wireless Module Small Antenna https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076S ... UTF8&psc=1
- 3 foot RP-SMA antenna extension cable https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T7 ... UTF8&psc=1
- RP SMA Female to RP SMA Female connector https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071L ... UTF8&psc=1
- 9dBi Omni WiFi Antenna https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NV ... UTF8&psc=1
I dropped the plane off last Monday afternoon and picked it up at noon on Friday for a test flight around the Bay Area class B airspace to get ADS-B performance report. Everything worked great first time including the Bluetooth connection to the Garmin Pilot tablet. I'm really happy... !
If you are looking for a shop to do the ADS-B upgrade and are anywhere near the west coast, you might want to give Adam at Aerial Avionics (http://www.aerialavionics.com/contact.html) a call.
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