What comes after a DA40?

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Re: What comes after a DA40?

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Erik can you Pirep me on Garmin Pilot?
David:
A very good find about the "Garmin Altitude Preselect Enablement For S-TEC 55X, Altitude Preselect Enablement Option For The G500". It makes it horribly expensive to just drive the AP.

Very frustrating this salami tactic ripoff! I will move everything I can to an ipad initially and then to experimental whenever the FAA finally does their homework.

Regarding Sandia. Here my email exchange with them - It looks like an Aspen VFR is the way to go. Vertical is actually better for my panel.

Hi Barry

I a working on a an instrument panel redesign and would like to use a SAI340 as the secondary (backup)
From the policy memo, it seems that I MUST keep the existing backup altimeter and airspeed indicator? In other words, the 340 will only replace the Gyro?

Hi. Yes you are correct. The SAI340 conforms to the FAA policy memo.
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Re: What comes after a DA40?

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Hi Antoine, Sure - I really like Garmin Pilot. A lot. It mimics very closely the look feel and logic of the Garmin 796 and also looks and feels a lot like the GTN 750. I like it more than the 796 though since it is a better size and shape for my cockpit. An iPad mounts very easily on a standard yoke. It is very easy to interact with. You can touch almost anything and a dial comes up and you can get information about it - airports, airspace restrictions, whatever. In other worse you don't need to dig deep into menus - but the data you need is shallow and easy to find graphically.

And you get charts and plates and georeferenced, the quality of the svt looks just like in a g1000 in terms of rendering - although no pink squares to fly through. I have adsb-out so I have a very full view of traffic. I have the gel-39-3d so my svt has ahars.

I will see if I can attach a picture. You see I have a retired iPhone 4 running garmin pilot too which I either have projecting svt or traffic full time depending on phase of flight.
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Re: What comes after a DA40?

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Thank you Erik - cool setup!
Meanwhile I can unfortunately confirm that it costs $7000 (!) to drive the AP's altitude and VS from the G500.
I will do it nevertheless but there's more:
The avionics specialist told me that the GNS530WAAS and GNS430WAAS are not certified (repeat NOT certified!) for IFR approaches?!?
I find it hard to swallow. Could it be that this is an EASA only restriction? How to get an "FAA answer" to this?
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Re: What comes after a DA40?

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The GNS530WAAS (and 430) are FAA certified for IFR approaches. BUT, you need to have certain additional equipment including various annunciators and displays that are driven by the 530. The annunciators have to be located at a certain distance from the left seat on the panel, and the CDI (or equivalent) must be certified to be used with the 530. This is "old" technology and any avionics shop should be able to provide the information for you. If your shop can't provide that, then Garmin can give you that information. This is all for FAA certification and FAA approved approaches. I don't know what the EASA requirements are.
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Hi Cary thanks for the info. I just wrote to Garmin support. Let's see

And on a more pleasant note: I found this pic quite cool - just imagine this with the upgraded 4-blade scimitar prop in black!
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Is this a picture of your new beast Antoine? If so, I don't think it will fly at night. The prop will keep whacking into the landing light beam and will eventually break off.
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ROFL

Especially with the new "Scimitar" blades. Expect a very thinly sliced beam!
btw - this is the ONLY landing light. Part of my "fix it " list!
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Re: What comes after a DA40?

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Antoine, I agree with what was said - in the USA at least, my GNS430W is approved for IFR approaches as long as it has the certain installation (Position relative to the pilot is correct) certain annunciator lights (to warn if there is a problem) and also the associated instruments, for example my installation has the King HSI that shows both horizontal and vertical glide slope position as fed from the gps (or alternatively my king can show glide slope from an ILS). So the 430W alone is not IFR but it can be part of an IFR installation. At least in the USA - and Canada - which is the only places I have experience with the equipment.

BTW you see in my panel, I only have one GNS430W. As for backup gps just in case... I am comfortable using my Garmin 510 (a much much cheaper but still robust unit) that is mounted as you see and gets ships power and cross fill - call it a poor man's 530. It gives a nice moving map and screen size roughly like a 530. And other than for radio, two certified gps are for backup reasons as far as I see it, and again, the 510 is so good, then I am comfortable using it as backup - but if I were IFR and lost my primary 430W gps source, then the 510 would be legal for situational awareness only, and I would need to be navigating by VOR and or ILS but that is ok, I have that equipment too. If that stuff went out and all I had was my 510, then I would declare an emergency and get help from ATC, but I would still have my 510 running on its own internal battery - in that sense it is in some ways better than a 530 which does not have its own battery. And besides those....of course my ipad and iphone also offer gps in a double emergency where 430, 510, and vor are all inop at the same time.
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Re: What comes after a DA40?

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Hi Antoine, MT offers their new Scimitar for your airplane? Fantastic. I just last summer got a similar MT prop for my own airplane. I will put a picture. I have the ONLY rocket in the world with it for now I believe since I was first. I HIGHLY recommend the upgraded nickel leading edges which you see on my prop since they make the otherwise slightly delicate MT prop into a much more robust protect setup. Plus it looks cooler that way.

I expect that going from the older aerodynamic design of the MT prop you currently have to the newer style, you will gain a little bit of cruise speed, a little bit quieter ride, and a bit more fuel efficiency - and climb.

Do you know how to do the 3 corners horseshoe method to test TAS? Before and after your new prop?
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Re: What comes after a DA40?

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A better view of the nickel leading edge - a fantastic option.
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