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deeohgee wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:53 pm Question for the people that are using a Wash and Wax product, can you use a regular car one? Assuming it’s the same thing as Aero Cosmetics?

arksat wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:14 pm

deeohgee wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:53 pm Question for the people that are using a Wash and Wax product, can you use a regular car one? Assuming it’s the same thing as Aero Cosmetics?

It's the same product for aircrafts, cars and boats.

chili4way wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:53 pm

arksat wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:14 pm

deeohgee wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:53 pm Question for the people that are using a Wash and Wax product, can you use a regular car one? Assuming it’s the same thing as Aero Cosmetics?

It's the same product for aircrafts, cars and boats.

The Aero Cosmetic Wash Wax All product can be used on both automobiles and airplanes. However other "Wash and Wax" products may NOT be suitable for use on Diamond Aircraft if they contain silicones.

For a "bad" example, Turtle Wax "Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Wash & Wax" contains dimethicone, which is a silicone. Don't assume a product is the same as Aero Cosmetics.

chili4way wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:33 pm The Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine and the Optimum No Rinse Wash & Wax seem to have different formulations. I look at the Safety Data Sheets (SDS) to check what compounds are used in such products (Composition section). I pay close attention when terms like substantive polymers appear in the product description.

The posted SDS listings show no silicones in the Wash & Shine product but do point to Dimethyl Siloxane in the Wash & Wax product. Siloxane is a silicone.

Since the posted SDS for both products doesn't specifically reference the "new formulation", but the referenced product descriptions do advertise the similarity between the two products, I'd likely call the company to make sure before using the new formulation myself. I'm paranoid about this and YMMV.

Colin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:48 pm The DA40 came with a bunch of cleaning products with it when it was brand new. Poking around it looks like this little kit. No silicon is the big thing to keep in mind. And the Plexus is great, but there are three adjustments I made when I got the new plane:

1. After each flight use Lemon Pledge on the leading edge of the wing and a little polishing glove. That removes the bugs and leaves behind a little waxy layer to make it easier next time. On the previous plane the bugs got sort of cemented on by time.

rwtucker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:15 pm There is a chance that a wax containing silicone was applied to my DA40 maybe 10 years ago. Is there a permanent change in play or does the clock run out eventually? Since I'm hangared when-not in the air, I can't make a case for much UV break down. What are the implications?