Citation crash 1/9/21

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Citation crash 1/9/21

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A Citation (N3RB) crashed in NW Oregon from altitude this past Saturday, 2 aboard. It was a flight from Troutdale to Boise. The Flight Aware data is scary. Superficially it seems like it spun in from about 31,000, right as it reached that altitude. The data seems bit off for a spin, but track sampling interval in FA might be lacking. The flight was filed for FL370.

There was no weather that I know of at the time and it doesn't look like it was particularly slow or climbing super-steep. This will be a weird one to sort out.
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Re: Citation crash 1/9/21

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It has been a bad week. The Air Asia Flight 8501 737 crash is puzzling as well. Diving into the ocean from 10000 feet a few minutes after takeoff is unusual, to say the least. At least they have wreckage to examine, and the FDR and CVR should be recovered (wreckage is in only about 65 feet of water).
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Re: Citation crash 1/9/21

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So sad. :cry:

The Challenger 601 crash that happened in Mexico a year or two ago had a flat impact angle. I believe it might have been a stall induced by thunderstorm penetration but don’t quote me on that.
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This unfortunate situation appears to be a high energy impact just by looking at the scorch marks spread out. Some news stations show a Citation 560 Excel with NetJets colors, but I doubt that. Lovely accurate reporting. :x
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Re: Citation crash 1/9/21

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Forgot to add the link to the news article about the Oregon crash.

https://ktvz.com/news/accidents-crashes ... servation/
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Re: Citation crash 1/9/21

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Steve wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:49 am
It has been a bad week. The Air Asia Flight 8501 737 crash is puzzling as well. Diving into the ocean from 10000 feet a few minutes after takeoff is unusual, to say the least. At least they have wreckage to examine, and the FDR and CVR should be recovered (wreckage is in only about 65 feet of water).
You will give the Air Asia CEO a heart attack. It wasn't an Air Asia aircraft.
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Re: Citation crash 1/9/21

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Karl wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:47 am
You will give the Air Asia CEO a heart attack. It wasn't an Air Asia aircraft.
You are correct. Crash last week was Sriwijaya Air. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to make much of a difference if you are flying an Indonesian carrier... :cry:
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Re: Citation crash 1/9/21

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In the comment section on Kathryn's Report are a few hints regarding the pilot and his past activities
http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2021/01/c ... ident.html
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Re: Citation crash 1/9/21

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You mean the prior incident? I believe that was years ago and a prior owner. If you listen to the ATC tapes, it sounds like pilot incapacitation and/or hypoxia. There are several YouTube videos on this incident. But based on threads on other sites, I don't believe the accident pilot was involved in the prior runway excursion. I could be wrong though. RIP
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