Business Seating Configuration

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Re: Business Seating Configuration

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As a Canadian, I am embarrassed as Transport Canada is an embarrassment. I just wrote a 1,500 word op ed for a Canadian aviation magazine about the inadequacies of Transport Canada and this is one of them.

In my dealing with the aircraft certification department many years ago, they feel compelled to add their stamp to any aircraft certification if, for no other reason, to justify their existence.

The Boeing 737 Max saga just made it 100 x worse.
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Years ago, Christian Dries, former Diamond CEO (and whose family owned Diamond Aircraft before selling to the Chinese), developed a love/hate relationship with US. While he loved that Diamond was able to sell so many planes to the US, he hated the litigious nature of US owners -- particularly those who sued or threatened to sue Diamond when Thielert went bankrupt and left owners with unsupported and problematic diesel engines in their expensive new DA42 TDI aircraft; these owners expected Diamond to make them whole or provide heavily-discounted replacement Austro engines (which could have bankrupted Diamond).

So it's not surprising that for years Diamond continued to base North American operations out of Canada instead of the US -- relying on separate distributors to sell to often-demanding US customers. Maybe Canadians are just nicer... ;)
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I tried to add this to my existing DA50 order and Diamond gave me the bird.
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alanhawse wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:26 pm I tried to add this to my existing DA50 order and Diamond gave me the bird.
Did they give you a reason why they wouldn't do the business seats? Super curious.
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foehammer wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:06 am
alanhawse wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:26 pm I tried to add this to my existing DA50 order and Diamond gave me the bird.
Did they give you a reason why they wouldn't do the business seats? Super curious.
Me too!! I'll be requesting on my order and hoping that something changes over the 2 year wait/build period.
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foehammer wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:06 am
alanhawse wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:26 pm I tried to add this to my existing DA50 order and Diamond gave me the bird.
Did they give you a reason why they wouldn't do the business seats? Super curious.
Nope…like all things diamond they won’t talk to you.

Specifically they told lifestyle no via diamond Canada to diamond Austria
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Re: Business Seating Configuration

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I am hoping the newly announced tour of demo rides in 50s mean they actually think the certification is imminent. Moreover they started building mine… so Im hoping soon.

Actually what I am really hoping is they deliver the DA50 before I have to send my 40 to get the austro engine problem fixed this summer.
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I note that the new DA62 Exterior & Interior Design brochure includes the second row business seating configuration.

https://www.diamondaircraft.com/fileadm ... SCREEN.pdf
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The 26 April 2023 email I received from Diamond also mentions the DA50 second row business seating configuration -- https://www.diamondaircraft.com/en/abou ... term=n%2fa
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