DA40NG D-ENCS down in Germany

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DA40NG D-ENCS down in Germany

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Re: DA40NG D-ENCS down in Germany

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By the serial number it’s not NG but maybe they changed the engine to Austro.

Edit: according to pictures, it was NG.
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Re: DA40NG D-ENCS down in Germany

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ememic99 wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:02 pm By the serial number it’s not NG but maybe they changed the engine to Austro.

Edit: according to pictures, it was NG.
How can we obtain more information about this crash?
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The ADS-B track is a bit puzzling... a climb toward the end:
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Re: DA40NG D-ENCS down in Germany

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Boatguy wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:19 am
ememic99 wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:02 pm By the serial number it’s not NG but maybe they changed the engine to Austro.

Edit: according to pictures, it was NG.
How can we obtain more information about this crash?
On one European forum a friend of mine wrote that unofficially there had been snow showers in the area at the time of the crash but I can’t confirm that information.
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Re: DA40NG D-ENCS down in Germany

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Here are historical weather conditions at closest airport (same valley, just across the border):

METAR LOWL 290650Z AUTO 08005KT 3300 -SN FEW012 BKN014 M00/M01 Q1023 TEMPO 2800 -SN FEW008 OVC015

METAR LOWL 290720Z AUTO 08007KT 9000 -SN FEW011 BKN018 M00/M01 Q1023 TEMPO 4500 -SNRA FEW008 OVC012
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Re: DA40NG D-ENCS down in Germany

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ememic99 wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:36 am Here are historical weather conditions at closest airport (same valley, just across the border):

METAR LOWL 290650Z AUTO 08005KT 3300 -SN FEW012 BKN014 M00/M01 Q1023 TEMPO 2800 -SN FEW008 OVC015

METAR LOWL 290720Z AUTO 08007KT 9000 -SN FEW011 BKN018 M00/M01 Q1023 TEMPO 4500 -SNRA FEW008 OVC012
The M00/M01, OVC012 and light snow suggests icing as a possibility.
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Boatguy wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:50 pm The M00/M01, OVC012 and light snow suggests icing as a possibility.
In a VFR flight?
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robert63 wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:35 pm
Boatguy wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:50 pm The M00/M01, OVC012 and light snow suggests icing as a possibility.
In a VFR flight?
I don’t know what their planned destination was but taking into account their altitude, the terrain and type of clouds in the area, it could easily be VFR into IMC and icing was 100% there if they were in cloud - 0 degrees at approximately 1000 feet probably meant -12 to -15 degrees OAT at their altitude.
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