Da42 crash in Norway today

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Re: Da42 crash in Norway today

by tjmoody » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:55 pm

Also of interest in this report is two anonymous reports of spins occurring during previous training flights (p51). In both cases as a result of practicing engine failure during a simulated go around (at altitude). The fatal Norwegian accident and one of the anonymous Swedish spins had a 3rd person in the back. In the case of the Swedish spin, the instructor reported that spin recovery with a 3rd person in the back was very difficult (the spin started at 7400ft msl and they recovered at 800ft MSL 😟). So while you certainly never want to get into a spin in a DA42, not surprisingly you definitely don’t want to do it with someone in the rear seats! Probably the case for any light twin but a good reminder!

Re: Da42 crash in Norway today

by ememic99 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:39 pm

Boatguy wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:08 pmVmc demo?
No. According to plan and ADS-B data for speeds, it was supposed to be demo of stall in landing configuration.

Re: Da42 crash in Norway today

by Boatguy » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:08 pm

Vmc demo?

Re: Da42 crash in Norway today

by ememic99 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:52 am

Guest wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:09 am It seems like they may be intentionally spinning a da42, something it’s not certified for.
I doubt this.
Guest wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:09 am Or are they just trying to stall it, but being way too aggressive?
This is more probable but it’s hard to tell what exactly they did. One can only guess based on other DA42 unintentional spin incidents/accidents descriptions (two described in this report and case in Sweden). It’s pretty sure that dropped wing in stall can’t be recovered with ailerons and such attempt probably ends with spin. As well as inputting wrong rudder.

Re: Da42 crash in Norway today

by Guest » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:09 am

It seems like they may be intentionally spinning a da42, something it’s not certified for. Or are they just trying to stall it, but being way too aggressive? So dangerous. Maybe because the students get so comfortable with the DA20 and Da40’s?

Re: Da42 crash in Norway today

by ememic99 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:21 am

Definitely interesting report, pretty much confirming initial assumptions. For me the most interesting stuff were voluntary anonymous reports of instructor who recovered spins two times - giving the clue what could've happened in this particular case.

Very similar to accident in Sweden https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/183880 which had the same outcome but luckily no fatalities due to aircraft being impaled on the tree (without hurting anyone on board) and slowing down ground hit.

Re: Da42 crash in Norway today

by Thomas » Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:12 pm

2023-02 LN-PFM eng corrected version.pdf
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just found on Twitter - the final report from Norway

Re: Da42 crash in Norway today

by photoSteveZ » Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:03 pm

Is this the first post-crash fire reported for a diesel-powered Diamond aircraft with the dual-spar-welded-fuel-tanks design? I hadn't heard of one before.

Re: Da42 crash in Norway today

by ememic99 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:27 pm

There are some info here but not much, post crash fire, no survivors:
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/269805

Re: Da42 crash in Norway today

by Borealis » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:45 am

Based on flight radar data, and witness observations, things could point to this being a stall/spin accident. It was a school plane doing air work. But I am sure we will know more later. Incredibly tragic. 3 occupants on board, and the police have now said that they are no longer hoping to find survivors. 😢

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