I'd be interested to hear of other DA42 pilots weather limitations in DA42 in terms of forecasted weather? Where do you draw the line in terms of icing, CBs, etc?
Particularly for non-radar aircraft.
What are your weather limits in DA42?
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Re: What are your weather limits in DA42?
One limit I experienced flying my DA42-VI was maximum crosswinds. The only time I've ever run out of rudder authority (i.e., one foot pedal pushed in all the way) was landing with reported 29 knot wind gusts perpendicular to the runway. In this situation I landed at CYXU (at Diamond in London, Ontario) in the winter on a plowed runway, with drifting snow making the strong crosswinds visible. But it was actually more difficult taxiing after landing, since the winds tried to force the plane to weathervane into the winds when rolling on icy taxiways. (I've never tried using differential power to counter strong crosswinds while landing.)
My DA42-VI did not have onboard weather radar in the nose, so I used SiriusXM satellite weather (which unfortunately only exists in North America). But even with SXM, I never tried crossing a forecast solid line of CBs -- I always cancelled or delayed the flight. The thunderstorm exception was for summertime "air-mass" thunderstorms that made it possible to navigate visually between individual towering cumulous clouds and cells -- this generally required flying on O2 at higher altitudes in the mid-teens in order to maintain VMC.
I will fly with forecast icing, since it usually doesn't materialize, and even if it does, it's usually possible to change altitudes to quickly get out of icing while employing the DA42's TKS system. But I may not fly if there are widespread icing PIREPS at the altitudes and locations along my projected route, or icing reported at low altitudes where I have to fly an instrument approach.
My DA42-VI did not have onboard weather radar in the nose, so I used SiriusXM satellite weather (which unfortunately only exists in North America). But even with SXM, I never tried crossing a forecast solid line of CBs -- I always cancelled or delayed the flight. The thunderstorm exception was for summertime "air-mass" thunderstorms that made it possible to navigate visually between individual towering cumulous clouds and cells -- this generally required flying on O2 at higher altitudes in the mid-teens in order to maintain VMC.
I will fly with forecast icing, since it usually doesn't materialize, and even if it does, it's usually possible to change altitudes to quickly get out of icing while employing the DA42's TKS system. But I may not fly if there are widespread icing PIREPS at the altitudes and locations along my projected route, or icing reported at low altitudes where I have to fly an instrument approach.
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Re: What are your weather limits in DA42?
I am pretty much with Dave, just lower numbers. When I first moved up to the DA42 my crosswind limit was 16kts and it is current 19kts. Working my way up.
And I'll launch if there is icing predicted, but only if there's a lot of VFR below and if the ceilings have been reported so I know what my climb time is.
And I'll launch if there is icing predicted, but only if there's a lot of VFR below and if the ceilings have been reported so I know what my climb time is.
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Re: What are your weather limits in DA42?
I'm in the SXM Nexrad but no onboard weather radar club. Looking into putting onboard weather back in the nose. I've flown through nexrad medium returns which must have been concentrated at one altitude, giving new meaning to a sporty ride, as well as returns that were benign. It's different if you have visual and can fly around stuff.
Because of that, it's been hard to define go/no-go minimums. There's usually a good slug of research using the GFA on aviationweather.gov and my newfound toy, the veritcal cross section chart below, before I launch. Night flights or lots of embedded stuff takes a good 10 minutes of figuring out other options, ways to fly around/above/below.
Then there are crappy days like this where the inboard TKS panels took longer than 30 min to start flowing
Because of that, it's been hard to define go/no-go minimums. There's usually a good slug of research using the GFA on aviationweather.gov and my newfound toy, the veritcal cross section chart below, before I launch. Night flights or lots of embedded stuff takes a good 10 minutes of figuring out other options, ways to fly around/above/below.
Then there are crappy days like this where the inboard TKS panels took longer than 30 min to start flowing
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Re: What are your weather limits in DA42?
Neema- Thanks for the heads up on the vertical cross section chart in FF. I didn't realize that you can access that if you change your briefing format to graphical (PDF) (vice graphical (HTML).
Bernie Seward, IR, AGI
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