IO-390 at TBO time
Moderators: Rick, Lance Murray
-
Joey
- 4 Diamonds Member
- Posts: 263
- Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:31 am
- First Name: Joey
- Aircraft Type: DA40
- Aircraft Registration: N633DC
- Airports: KJGG
- Has thanked: 11 times
- Been thanked: 17 times
IO-390 at TBO time
Anybody ever consider putting in a IO-390 at overhaul time.? I’m still several years away from an overhaul but it seems “interesting”. The downside is trying to get a STC like for the supercharger is like pulling teeth with the FAA.
Joey Ritchie
DA40 XLS 40.940
JGG Williamsburg VA
DA40 XLS 40.940
JGG Williamsburg VA
-
gyro3816
- 3 Diamonds Member
- Posts: 83
- Joined: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:25 pm
- First Name: Adam
- Aircraft Type: DA40
- Aircraft Registration: N886KC
- Airports: KPTK
- Has thanked: 10 times
- Been thanked: 80 times
Re: IO-390 at TBO time
I’d happily sign a wait list for the io-390 STC.
Adam
CSEL, CMEL, Instrument
N886KC DA40 XLS, G1000 w GFC700
CSEL, CMEL, Instrument
N886KC DA40 XLS, G1000 w GFC700
-
dmloftus
- 4 Diamonds Member
- Posts: 465
- Joined: Thu May 07, 2020 3:38 pm
- First Name: David
- Aircraft Type: DA40
- Aircraft Registration: N868US
- Airports: KLZU
- Has thanked: 215 times
- Been thanked: 257 times
Re: IO-390 at TBO time
While we're at it, maybe an AEIO-390 so we can do loops and rolls ;-) I would love to sign up for the IO-390 STC if the airframe could handle it. But you would also probably need Garmin/Diamond help with the G1000 which would be very difficult. Did any of the Mooney models with a STC have a G1000?
-
Lance Murray
- 5 Diamonds Member
- Posts: 1163
- Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:25 pm
- First Name: Lance
- Aircraft Type: DA40
- Airports:
- Has thanked: 7 times
- Been thanked: 120 times
Re: IO-390 at TBO time
I would do it if there were an STC but after watching how difficult it was for Forced Aeromotive to get theirs I don't see it happening.
-
Joey
- 4 Diamonds Member
- Posts: 263
- Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:31 am
- First Name: Joey
- Aircraft Type: DA40
- Aircraft Registration: N633DC
- Airports: KJGG
- Has thanked: 11 times
- Been thanked: 17 times
Re: IO-390 at TBO time
That’s what has me concerned too. I asked diamond if they were looking at this but they aren’t looking at it. I know cirrus upgraded to the 215 hp version in their latest sr20. It’s got about a 100 lbs more useful load and they are claiming 155 Ktas cruising speed. I’m still a ways off from an overhaul so for now it’s probably a thought exercise.
Joey Ritchie
DA40 XLS 40.940
JGG Williamsburg VA
DA40 XLS 40.940
JGG Williamsburg VA
-
krellis
- 4 Diamonds Member
- Posts: 343
- Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:42 am
- First Name: Keith
- Aircraft Type: OTHER
- Aircraft Registration: N853DF
- Airports: GA04
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 63 times
Re: IO-390 at TBO time
It's not as simple as just bolting on the IO-390 when you remove the IO-360. The IO-390 is an angle valve engine, different dimensionally and is a bit heavier than the 360. The 390 seems to run cooler CHT's, but higher oil temps - so a possible oil cooler redesign would be required (along with a different cowling most likely).
That being said, a DA40 with the gross weight of the NG and powered by an IO-390 would be a great airplane. I said that to Christian Dries years ago at the Katana Kafe in Austria and was completely rebuffed.
That being said, a DA40 with the gross weight of the NG and powered by an IO-390 would be a great airplane. I said that to Christian Dries years ago at the Katana Kafe in Austria and was completely rebuffed.
-
Colin
- 5 Diamonds Member
- Posts: 2006
- Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:37 pm
- First Name: Colin
- Aircraft Type: DA42
- Aircraft Registration: N972RD
- Airports: KFHR
- Has thanked: 319 times
- Been thanked: 527 times
Re: IO-390 at TBO time
Diamond can't get the software certified for their *current* models, I can't imagine them taking on an engine swap for one of them.
Colin Summers, PP Multi-Engine IFR, ~3,000hrs
colin@mightycheese.com * send email rather than PM
http://www.flyingsummers.com
N972RD DA42 G1000 2.0 s/n 42.AC100 (sold!)
N971RD DA40 G1000 s/n 40.508 (traded)
colin@mightycheese.com * send email rather than PM
http://www.flyingsummers.com
N972RD DA42 G1000 2.0 s/n 42.AC100 (sold!)
N971RD DA40 G1000 s/n 40.508 (traded)
-
jwx96
- 3 Diamonds Member
- Posts: 179
- Joined: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:54 pm
- First Name: John
- Aircraft Type: DA40
- Aircraft Registration: N193JP
- Airports: KFCM
- Has thanked: 87 times
- Been thanked: 47 times
Re: IO-390 at TBO time
Diamond also can’t get us a digital replacement for the KAP-140 autopilot, even for the planes with conventional instrumentation. I don’t think Diamond understands American GA. Many pilots want to upgrade their planes.